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		<title>Comment on Open letter to cultural collecting organisations by Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Matthew. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In theory Digital NZ should be able to connect these dots. It shouldn&#039;t be too hard to add a DNZ widget to something like Timeframes image pages so that the subject keywords are also finding content on Te Ara, NZHistory and other sites. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Te Papa collections do this, though the results tend to be items in other collections. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An easy way around this would be to have different versions of the DNZ widget (or tabs for different filters) where you get related collection items on one and related reference/context items on the other. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Similarly both Te Ara and NZHistory could add a related collection items widget on all our image/audio/video pages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I realise this doesn&#039;t address the copyright issue, though it would also be possible to provide a DNZ filter for just CC content.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;cheers&lt;br /&gt;Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Matthew. </p>
<p>In theory Digital NZ should be able to connect these dots. It shouldn&#39;t be too hard to add a DNZ widget to something like Timeframes image pages so that the subject keywords are also finding content on Te Ara, NZHistory and other sites. </p>
<p>Te Papa collections do this, though the results tend to be items in other collections. </p>
<p>An easy way around this would be to have different versions of the DNZ widget (or tabs for different filters) where you get related collection items on one and related reference/context items on the other. </p>
<p>Similarly both Te Ara and NZHistory could add a related collection items widget on all our image/audio/video pages.</p>
<p>I realise this doesn&#39;t address the copyright issue, though it would also be possible to provide a DNZ filter for just CC content.</p>
<p>cheers<br />Jamie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open letter to cultural collecting organisations by Helen Rickerby</title>
		<link>http://talkingtothecan.com/open-letter-to-cultural-collecting-organisations/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Rickerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Back to school: On the march of technology by talkingtothecan</title>
		<link>http://talkingtothecan.com/back-to-school-on-the-march-of-technology/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>talkingtothecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your point, Giovanni, that &quot;data in and of itself is quite useless really, and we don&#039;t need more information, either - we need to be better informed.&quot; We&#039;re facing a deluge of data and need all the help we can get to make sense of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your point, Giovanni, that &quot;data in and of itself is quite useless really, and we don&#39;t need more information, either &#8211; we need to be better informed.&quot; We&#39;re facing a deluge of data and need all the help we can get to make sense of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Back to school: On the march of technology by Giovanni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an aspect of this debate that I don&#039;t think gets commented on enough, but it&#039;s nicely highlighted in the last paragraph there.  We&#039;re used to thinking of the contents of books as knowledge, whereas we describe the contents of electronic publishing as information or data. But data in and of itself is quite useless really, and we don&#039;t need more information, either - we need to be better informed. That&#039;s why I think that it would be useful conceptually to make more conscious use of the world knowledge in the digital domain. It might change how we think of the whole enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s an aspect of this debate that I don&#39;t think gets commented on enough, but it&#39;s nicely highlighted in the last paragraph there.  We&#39;re used to thinking of the contents of books as knowledge, whereas we describe the contents of electronic publishing as information or data. But data in and of itself is quite useless really, and we don&#39;t need more information, either &#8211; we need to be better informed. That&#39;s why I think that it would be useful conceptually to make more conscious use of the world knowledge in the digital domain. It might change how we think of the whole enterprise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Three by talkingtothecan</title>
		<link>http://talkingtothecan.com/three/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>talkingtothecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good summary of keeping community interaction real over here, c/o @gnat: http://nathan.torkington.com/blog/2010/02/21/community-management-workshop/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And to remind myself of one of my favourite pieces of responsive architecture (similar to some of the ideas Adam Greenfield raised), here&#039;s a link to the Institut du Monde Arabe entry on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_World_Institute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good summary of keeping community interaction real over here, c/o @gnat: <a href="http://nathan.torkington.com/blog/2010/02/21/community-management-workshop/" rel="nofollow">http://nathan.torkington.com/blog/2010/02/21/community-management-workshop/</a></p>
<p>And to remind myself of one of my favourite pieces of responsive architecture (similar to some of the ideas Adam Greenfield raised), here&#39;s a link to the Institut du Monde Arabe entry on Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_World_Institute" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_World_Institute</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Marton half by Chelsea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can always tell which one is you.  You&#039;re like a tree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can always tell which one is you.  You&#39;re like a tree.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Training &#8211; part two by talkingtothecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>talkingtothecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the 1:30 400m was probably a misreading of the calculator; 1:40 more accurate though might have to visit a track and try it out in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the 1:30 400m was probably a misreading of the calculator; 1:40 more accurate though might have to visit a track and try it out in reality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oh, Mother by Cheryl Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://talkingtothecan.com/oh-mother/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. There was an amount of &#039;cold Methodism&#039; which came down through a branch of my family, too, which I found perplexing &amp; a bit unnerving as a child. But when I researched my family&#039;s history in the East End, I came across a distant relative who gave me a copy of a letter written about 1860 by a fairly disreputable shared ancestor who, after various high-jinks of a dubious nature, described his conversion to Methodism by the missionaries who were then being sent into the East End by the Methodist church. It was a hellhole so lawless and in need of spiritual redemption that it was treated like any other third world place: the Congo, or Kororareka/Russell, for example. Somehow knowing this made me more understanding of the methodist values he&#039;d bequeathed to his descendants: I could see that their sense of reproval was based on a kind of atavistic memory, a fear of the world&#039;s temptations, passed down through the family. (Hopefully in this generation we&#039;ve moved on from all that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. There was an amount of &#39;cold Methodism&#39; which came down through a branch of my family, too, which I found perplexing &amp; a bit unnerving as a child. But when I researched my family&#39;s history in the East End, I came across a distant relative who gave me a copy of a letter written about 1860 by a fairly disreputable shared ancestor who, after various high-jinks of a dubious nature, described his conversion to Methodism by the missionaries who were then being sent into the East End by the Methodist church. It was a hellhole so lawless and in need of spiritual redemption that it was treated like any other third world place: the Congo, or Kororareka/Russell, for example. Somehow knowing this made me more understanding of the methodist values he&#39;d bequeathed to his descendants: I could see that their sense of reproval was based on a kind of atavistic memory, a fear of the world&#39;s temptations, passed down through the family. (Hopefully in this generation we&#39;ve moved on from all that.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are we there yet? by talkingtothecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>talkingtothecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Taylor&#039;s blogged with more details about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://activitypress.com/2009/06/30/1000-great-new-zealand-ebooks-on-their-way/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1000 Great New Zealand eBooks&lt;/a&gt; project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Taylor&#39;s blogged with more details about the <a href="http://activitypress.com/2009/06/30/1000-great-new-zealand-ebooks-on-their-way/" rel="nofollow">1000 Great New Zealand eBooks</a> project.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are we there yet? by BookieMonster</title>
		<link>http://talkingtothecan.com/are-we-there-yet/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>BookieMonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post - I really enjoyed reading your comments as I was interested in the event, but not able to be there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My thoughts too are very much geared towards the idea that the industry (traditional and future) needs to get over the &quot;we&#039;ll replace physical books with digital books&quot; thinking and go way beyond that in terms of content and what can be done with content. It sounds like this is where people are going, which is positive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also re your comments on the reader - yes! Talk to book readers, really dedicated book readers (any kind of books, I&#039;m not just talking literary types) and you will get some pretty emphatic views on the future place of digital publishing - and what they do and don&#039;t like. Currently it feels like this is an underground voice, and not really invited into the discussion - almost &quot;we&#039;ll decide where we&#039;re going and what we&#039;ll give them and then we&#039;ll get their feedback once we&#039;re there&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you bookmarked now! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post &#8211; I really enjoyed reading your comments as I was interested in the event, but not able to be there.</p>
<p>My thoughts too are very much geared towards the idea that the industry (traditional and future) needs to get over the &quot;we&#39;ll replace physical books with digital books&quot; thinking and go way beyond that in terms of content and what can be done with content. It sounds like this is where people are going, which is positive.</p>
<p>Also re your comments on the reader &#8211; yes! Talk to book readers, really dedicated book readers (any kind of books, I&#39;m not just talking literary types) and you will get some pretty emphatic views on the future place of digital publishing &#8211; and what they do and don&#39;t like. Currently it feels like this is an underground voice, and not really invited into the discussion &#8211; almost &quot;we&#39;ll decide where we&#39;re going and what we&#39;ll give them and then we&#39;ll get their feedback once we&#39;re there&quot;.</p>
<p>Have you bookmarked now! <img src='http://talkingtothecan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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